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Making his way
from the east coast, Qi Peng brought with him his unique conceptual style to
our local art scene, helping define some of IAO's first works and
boundaries. Collaborting with several artists while still maintaining his
experimental photographs and spraypainted works, but also broadening his skills
by starting work in digital drawings, he's become one of the bigger risk-taking
artists in Utah
today. ---
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I got a chance to chat with Qi about his career, his work, upcoming shows and a
few other topics on our art scene. All the while watching him remove a
ton of pop-art in disguise... but you didn't hear that from me.
Gavin: Hey Qi, first off, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Qi: Hey there, Gavin.
Thanks for chatting with me. Well, I came straight off the streets of New York City, Queens
represent. kind of the ghettopart of Jamaica close by the flushing
meadows tennis courts. I was an illegitimate kid and an Asian twin who was
later adopted by a kind gentleman from Philadelphia
later on. I was a quiet child, didn't make waves back in the day, and studied
real hard like the typical Asian nerd boy back in high school. really was into
art history when my real parents were giving me a copy of Gardner's History
Of Art book and well, that got me real interested in all that ancient and
renaissance. probably would have landed in archeology if I were not so careful,
you know? Nowadays, I'm a fine art street conceptual artist living here in salt lake city and working here in downtown SaltLake as
well as my hometown New York City.
been exhibited in all sorts of places ranging from the lab at Belmar near Denver, James Cohan Gallery and Anna Kustera in New York City, Artspace in New Haven,
Modern8 Gallery in Salt Lake City, and even down
in Miami this
past year at the Fountain Art Fair through the Culturehall website.
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Gavin: How did you first got you interested in art, and what were some
of your first inspirations?
Qi: Well, I am not joking when I did some of my first artwork on the
walls of my real parent's home. lots of crayon scribbles, too bad but I had the
idea before CY Twombly ever laid hands on the canvas. But you know, art
education is all about rediscovering what the greats ever did and nothing is
ever truly original in the art world. First inspirations include Alex Katz who
was a Yale kid just like me, Goya who was some punk Spanish artist whose
etchings are some of the goriest stuff I ever seen especially those that battle
against the concept of war (yeah, that bush war makes context here), Banksy who
rebelled against the system, Anselm Reyle whose dope fluorescent paint
splattered on metal, CY Twombly who scribbled his way through rather funky
patterns with deep allusions to Greek history, my buddy Matt Jones who does
some postmodern critique of Andy Warhol with a touch of the personal, Elizabeth
Peyton who has some awesome redaction of pop culture figures with painterly
style, Eric Fischl with his provocative sexually charged paintings of boring
suburbs (reminds me of the Utah development areas), Circlegal whose stick figures
are home invading the whole nation with her brilliant wit, Gerhard Richter who
has some versatility like some dope fiend who mastered everything in sight from
snapshots to just some straight up large abstractions done with squeegee, Wendy
White is the bomb diggity artist whose work just kicks total butt with that
admixture of spray paint and acrylic just thrown together in some urban collage
of multipanel canvases... too many props to give here but I'm down with it
all... I figure that the more art you love, the better off you are... oh and I
mustn't forget my two favorite art thieves, Cattelan and Richard Prince too,
word to the men there.
Gavin: For those who don't know, what would you say your most known for
locally?
Qi: I dunno, man. You know, I exhibited a few times here and I have a
solo show at tanner frames coming up in February. very difficult to tell what
people here think of my artwork and have gotten some positive responses. but
that's about it indeed. hopefully, I can work on rallying more support around
here for the type of stuff that I'm working on lately. But contemporary art is
a tough sell, especially for street artists who have to scrape by the skin of
their teeth.
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Gavin: You went to Vanderbilt for a few years and then went to get your
Masters at Yale. What was that experience like for you, and how were their art
programs?
Qi: Actually, went to Vanderbilt for an English Literature degree and
was straight off the hook in terms of the professors who got me into the heavy
literary stuff. ironically, even though I was more into Thomas Pynchon at the
time, i seriously began to appreciate stuff that I never thought that I would
like, ya know, books from Victorian era, especially nonfiction and tons of the
brownings' poetry. but more or less, the literature helped me to infuse the
work I do, especially the figurative work I'm pursuing lately, with a wordy
sensibility. The Yale art program was just so awesome and back in the day, that
was when Jessica Stockholder was there about a decade before I invaded the
scene. The professors were pretty much awesome, teaching you the ropes of how
to navigate through all the art marketing and gallery system. They pretty much
inspired you there and still let you do your own thing. Really, technical
mastery is a small segment of what the artist must construct with. However, you
mustn't forget that I came from the hip-hop generation so basically i am mired
in the golden era of rap where sampling and re-editing cultural trash and bits
and pieces like mad electronic circuitry is the way to go. Its like I'm working
having my art reflect the Def Jux label type of stuff with obscure and familiar
stuff come together... ya know, Yale can only provide the foundation but it
really can't teach you to connect to the outside world, the street knowledge
that is garnered from experience of hustling in the art world because nobody
can give you the right skills to pay the bills.
Gavin: The majority of your work is spray painting. Why made you choose
to do that type of art?Qi: That's awesome you
brought it up. you know, it really was all Circlegal's fault. I really wasn't
into that but mostly into acrylic and paste but Circlegal had all these spray
paint cans all over her studio and one day, I just wanted to test it out just
to see what would come forth and i came up with these series of really Grade-A
shebang that worked perfectly in capturing my gestural motions, sort of like a
tape recorder in the visual sense. The conceptual drive behind all this loopy
stuff is an attempt to connect with my Asian heritage of calligraphy, of
writing on this postmodern cave in some desultory fashion that would drop some
major science on people's heads and force them to realize that paintings are
all abstract, even the realistic ones too, because everything is created from
minute to large brushstrokes, whether or not the illusion of realism is there
or not. Also, spray paint is cheap and readily found so I can find it wherever
I go, especially out to my hood in New
York City and I can get some funky colors and work
fast on large spaces if needs be. I'm also gonna give some props to krink
markers too. I really dig them although spray paint is still my metier. And I
still work with traditional materials too like acrylic and ink and pen and
watercolor or gouache because you can't forget your roots, no matter how much
of it has to be unlearned from art school days.
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Gavin: Have you ever tried your hand at graffiti art, or do you prefer
to stick with the freeform style you have?
Qi: I really like graffiti art but for me, art is about pushing the
boundaries and capturing urban calligraphy. I don't like to imitate anyone else
so I prefer to stick with the freeform style of the painting as historical
artifacts, a diary of what i just wanted to stick into the support that day. My
buddy Matt Jones, who is represented by Buia Gallery in Chelsea, really loved the meshing of colors.
It's like crashing some Brice Marden shebang with crossbred postmodern
funkiness of dope sounds in waves of glory. Something like Kristen Baker on a
major acid trip. I give props to trent
call, who is dope too. however, I gotta go my own thang because art is
exploration of self, expression of one's true colors and conceptual
underpinnings.
Gavin: You also dabble in digital artwork as well as photography. What
got you interested in those forms?
Qi: Well I was screwing around in Photoshop one day and came up with
some reductionist minimalist shebang with some industrial landscapes that I had
proposed to Modern8 Gallery back around a year ago when I started to exhibit
them. they resemble rather funky etchings with squiggles. I've done some cool
looking stuff with drawing using iPhones and palm pilots and i seriously
believe that if art is about pushing the envelope, it makes for open minds. We
can't forget that the technique must be dictated by what one is trying to think
rather than the other way around. Technique for technique's sake is going to be
a car on an empty tank of gas. my photography doesn't use cameras, just
scribble and develop the film, dunking the stuff into chemicals to produce some
off-the-wall colors with cross-processed or not capture of real-time gestures.
Again, it's all about relating back to the roots of art as a primitive form of
markmaking. which is why the scribbly chuck close stuff appeals to me because
reality is the illusion of scientific markers. Digital artwork is certainly the
future and my friend James Huckenpahler from Hemphill Fine Arts in Washington
D.C. has pointed the way towards what art will be doing more of in the near future.Merging
disciplines together with art has always been an obsession of mine, indeed.
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Gavin: Do you view yourself as a multi-talent artist, or are you mostly
just experimenting with your work?
Qi: I don't know whether I'm talented honestly. there are times when I
feel like a humble artisan just trying to leave a mark on the world, some part
of personal history in this dehumanized and overcommercial, farmed-out land
where the suburbs are the new jungle here. Everything just looks so sanitary
and i come from the streets... Art is always about process, about experimenting
and honestly, failure in art is mostly a failure to communicate effectively I
think. Talent in the art world is all subjective. There is always gonna be
haters or people who refuse to look at the stuff I've done. but I don't mind
them and keep on going. I realize that good ideas aren't always appreciated
immediately but things sink in through osmosis within a little while, you know?
I am excited about some good stuff coming down the pipelines... yeah, just lots
of unexpected turns in the road... in the end, you can't always be sure where
you end up just like kerouac's road journey with his own different drummer. I
just hope that I don't fall off like the way some of the musicians sell out
because the day I begin to compromise will be the day that I stop doing art.
Gavin: Are there any new areas you'd like to expand your work in?
Qi: In terms of technique, I'm sure there is but I don't know yet but as
a conceptual artist i am hoping to get more into larger canvases and
installation art, perhaps more video art someday when i get the studio space.
right now I'm just been spending more time getting out there and marketing the
artwork to large markets in New York City and Los Angeles. Hopefully I
can get into some more Utah
exhibitions too, particularly with some dope artwork they are showing at the
UMFA with the art after 1960 collection which is sweet, man. Of course I am
going to be working harder with the look of digital etching because people
really dig that style a lot. In fact, my shopping cart piece got juried by
Helen Meyrick into a group show called "guilty pleasures" at the
Projects Gallery in Philadelphia
(Northern Liberties) next February so I'm looking forward to that. Also I'm
trying to dabble into more performance and internet art. There are times when I
like to fake the funk as a faux art dealer just to point out the hypocrisies of
the art world plus my internet art project called "The Qi
Peng Anti-Fan Club" so you can join up to check out what is the
equivalent of a digtal, blog studio diary of sorts. i guess that would be the
first time that the development of an artist's career is exhibited as a work of
art.
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Gavin: Tell us about the showing in Vegas you have coming up and what
you'll be showing.
Qi: That will be coming up at the end of January and Circlegal and I
will be executing a rather huge scale installation work of approximately twenty
Circlegal paintings with two of my spray paintings plus tons of furniture
throws all over the casinos. It will be rather ambitious in terms of scope as
an interactive art exhibition at major venues but I won't disclose too much
more than that. It will be a good surprise plus the Kurtz Peng team will be
documenting the temporary installation as fine art prints too... The subject
matter of what we are showing is a secret but it's going to be tasty treats for
the fans out there.
Gavin: Why did you choose to do a dual showing with Circlegal?
Qi: Kurtz Peng is pretty much a mash up collaboration between two very
different artistic soul but it provides us a way to reflect on the various ways
of markmaking. You know, she and I are pretty much artistic rebels, although in
different ways. she with her stick figures and swoon-like craftsmanship and I'm
still mired in graffiti-style calligraphy with a ton of panache to boot like
mad crazy. We have been working together since this past summer so it's kind of
like a scratchy mix tape, sometimes we gotta go solo but together we can
provoke a good response in people with touching social commentary and flashy
wit. Circlegal is incredible stuff to munch on, seriously. You can't get any
better than the ingenious use of stick figures and the meshing of the primitive
with the elegant. it's just an odd coupl(ing) that my conceptual artist can
blend in with the abstract expressionist craziness of her artwork. But it works
somehow, I don't fully understand.
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Gavin: A little state-wide, what are your thoughts on the local art
scene, both good and bad?
Qi: Art scene is awesome, gotta give props to Kayo Gallery, SaltLakeArtCenter, SegoArtCenter, IAO Projects,
some of the new joints around the block (sorry if I didn't mention any of the
others). however, the art education system probably needs some more conceptual
focus. I don't care much at all for the art for art's sake, rarefied shebang
that is being emphasized in the universities here... I don't think that figure
drawing classes did me much good, you know? I ask myself, what is the
conceptual drive for the whole piece and how can the viewer interact with it.
but Utah is
growing and the contemporary art and street artists like me can thrive pretty
good much. plus I'm a huge fan of some graffiti artists and it's rather
interesting to see how guys like Sri Whipple and Trent Call manage to do well
here. I suspect that as Utah
becomes more diverse, the growth in the art scene around here will be
explosive. someday we will have classes on graffiti art and tagging in its
cultural context.
Gavin: Is there anything you feel could be done to make it bigger or
better?
Qi: Hmm... well Utah is already headed
in a positive direction so I expect the art to become more cutting-edge and
more slick looking as we get the outsiders moving into Salt Lake City. I think that we are going to
be a truly cool underground culture that's very dope and places like Slowtrain
and Signed & Numbered and Uprok Records are gonna be proving that
alternative subcultures are going to be here to stay. Someday we are gonna take
over the New York
scene I expect on our own terms. New York City
has been hit hard by the economy so perhaps SaltLake
will be getting more shine on our area. I think that we just need more people
to collect the stuff... Yeah, the peeps with wealth who can invest into these
newer types of art rather than tossing up another red rocks mesa thing on the
front lines. so please help us buy some cool-looking stuff, thanks everybody.
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Gavin: What are your thoughts on Gallery Stroll and how its developed
over the years?
Qi: Gallery Stroll is awesome and I love getting my exercise all over
seriously. it developed over the years by just growing everywhere. I just wish
that i could visit all the galleries in one night but sometimes it takes me
like a week to find all the nooks and crannies. Kayo Gallery, signed and numbered,
and IAO Projects have pushed the envelope in the contemporary Utah arts scene so I'm grateful for those
venues for some flair to the places around the way. the posh styles really help
to show that Utah
is not stuck in the dark ages of art again and again. it's become way more
urbane and totally fly in its own styling and profiling.
Gavin: What can we expect from you throughout the next year?
Qi: Geewhiz, that's a lot of figuring. But anyways, I got my solo show
at Tanner Frames in February just in time for Valentine's Day over at the
Artspace at the bridge area, a group show out at Art Raw Gallery in Chelsea
with two small paintings, my group show over at the Projects Gallery in
Philadelphia with one of my industrial landscapes digital works, just got
chosen for an online gallery at collegeartonline.com, perhaps some art fair
invitations (dunno yet), and many installation projects with Circlegal out in
Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York for sure. Next year I plan
to focus on a conceptual art series where I will execute a piece of digital
artwork for each IKEA item from their 2007 catalog. there are slightly over
4000 items so I expect this project to take up a great deal of time! I plan to
apply to some art grants and fellowships this year too, considering that i
don't have a day job at the moment. And I do volunteer a lot in the art
community so feel free to e-mail me at qipengart@gmail.com if you need any help because
I'm usually around. Finally, i am definitely looking for gallery representation
both in Utah and in larger art markets such as
New York or Los Angeles. I could fulfill some ambitious
ideas I have down the pipeline but need the resources and the ability to
execute art in a larger studio than my tiny condo. it's been a tough road but
I'm sure that i will find a gallery home someday. Its a dream deferred in some
ways.
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Gavin: Is there anything you'd like to plug or promote?
Qi: Yeah, a shout-out to all of my friends, especially James
Huckenpahler, Matt Jones, Circlegal, my stepdad Powell, the girlfriend, my Yale
friends, you know you are there, Shadna, Blackberry phones, iPhones, the Apple
Store, Best Buy, Ace Hardware, Utrechts, and the streets of New York plus sandboxautomatic.com for
providing the music for my studio. Websites I wanna plug include my own at
www.qipeng.net and the Art Catalogue Raisonne at qipeng-art.blogspot.com and my
blog at qipengart.wordpress.com plus the Facebook anti-fan club mentioned
already. Word up to Culturehall, U-Gallery, and CollegeArtOnline for the extra
support you gave me during times of hardship.