Back
into the mix I was this past weekend, and I found a show right in the
heart of downtown playing it up to a younger crowd.
I went
a-steppin' into Artopia this past Friday to check out the punk/ska
show down in the basement. --- The political punk sounds of Talking
Bombs, the experimental ska of Illegal Beagle, and the ever hard
pounding sounds of The Playdead Movement. All performing along with
The Dead City Dregs out of St. Louis, and envoking the entrie crowd
to dance. Talking Bombs originally agreed to do an interview, but
have since declined (through second-party sources no less) and gave
no reason why. So instead of three local interviews we have two, as
well as some pictures of the show for you to check out here.
Illegal
Beagle (Henry, Keenan, Diandra, Madison and
Jimin)
http://www.myspace.com/illegalbeaglemmska
Gavin: Hey guys, first off, tell
us who you are and a little about yourselves.
Di:
Illegal Beagle. We're a five-piece high school ska/punk/whatever band
from Salt Lake City. We like moonlight horseback-riding and long
walks on the beach.
Gavin: How did you all get together
and decide to form Illegal Beagle?
Di: Henry came up
with the name three summers ago, and we half-jokingly talked about
starting a ska band called Illegal Beagle for a while. Then, at the
beginning of '07 we started actually practicing and it just kind of
took off from there. Just kidding, that was a total lie. But this is
what really happened... (This was a interesting, long and funny
read that I didn't want to remove, but was too long to fit into
interview format, but I didn't want to delete it either. So I posted
it in my MySpace blog. You can find the complete written history of
Illegal Beagle here.
--Gavin)
Gavin:
Who were some of your favorite acts and musical influences growing
up?
Di: Blink 182, for sure. My favorite band from when
I was ten to fourteen. I was also really into Les Miserables and
Chicago.
Madison: The band I owe the most to is The
Offspring. They were my gateway into all of my favorite bands today,
and I'll always love 'em for it.
Keenan: The
Specials
Jimin: First ska show I ever went to was for
the best band in the world, The Aquabats! They've set a precedent for
ska ridiculousness for me and I've been permanently scarred every
since.
Gavin: The Ska scene in Utah isn't what it once
was. Do you feel like you're filling the void left behind in any way,
or does it still feel like the ska scene is still very small?
Di:
I really have only been into ska for a couple years, and before
Illegal Beagle, I didn't know any local ska bands. It seems like
these days so many people are into professing various genres of music
and scenes are dead. Obviously it's not dead, since we're around.
What I'm getting at is that I don't know what the scene used to be,
but I'm pretty happy with it right now.
Jimin: I've
been in Utah since 2005, so I have no idea what this mystical,
wonderful time in Utah's ska history was like. I do however, enjoy
listening to bands who were there, Insatiable, Viewers Like You, etc.
There are always people who are clamoring for ska these days, and
plenty of bands more than happy to provide.
Madison: I
don't miss anything because I wasn't old enough to be in the scene
until it had died down a lot. Of course, I wish it were bigger, but
as long as there's all these kids willing to dance to anything, I'm
happy. People don't have to be super ska scenesters to enjoy a good
show and listen to good music. It's just a big community of friends
supporting each other.
Gavin: Does it ever feel odd
pairing up with Punk and Reggae bands, or do those crowds feed off
you since you somewhat follow those genres?
Di: Not at
all. We have some songs that are punker and some songs that are more
reggae, and we try to make our setlists cater to whoever we're
playing for that night. Plus, a show would get boring if all the
bands we're the exact same genre.
Madison: No. Everyone
in the band loves reggae and punk just as much as ska and any other
kind of music so we're usually excited to play with bands other than
ska bands. Most kids who go to our shows like a wide range of music
as well so I think everyone's just having a good time.
Jimin:
Genre-specificity is for n00bs. We're more than happy to play with
other bands, no matter the style, and often do on many occasions. We
will tailor our set a bit to fit to overall mood of the show, but who
can ever not like ska? Music is all about collaboration with other
musicians, ska or otherwise.
Gavin: Are you thinking of
expanding at all and getting more people in for a bigger band sound,
or are you happy with the five-piece setup you have now?
Jimin:
We tried to add a tromboner to our line up once, but he ran away
after one practice screaming something about frozen pants… Anyway,
we wouldn't mind bulking up our horn section. But the five of us are
all really good friends, and it seems to have been working so
far.
Di: We've talked about the idea of expanding and
possibly getting a tromboner, but I don't think it's going to happen.
The fact that we have two guitars definitely makes up for the single
horn player in our band. Also we have a great chemistry with the five
of us, and I don't know how adding another member would affect that.
If a really good opportunity came up, we'd be willing to add another
member, but we're not looking to.
Madison: We've
thought about more horns a lot... maybe.
Gavin: You're
currently unsigned. Are you looking for a label to be on or are you
thinking of staying independent and doing more DIY stuff?
Madison:
DIY. No question.
Di: DIY, definitely. It's nice to
be personally in control of what's going on.
Jimin: DIY
is love! We prefer to do things according to our own collective
decisions.
Gavin: A little local, what are your
thoughts on the local music scene, both good and bad?
Di:
Overall, I think it's good. I've met a lot of really cool people just
through being in a band, both people who we play with and people who
come to this shows. In the punk/ska scene we're pretty tight, and we
play with a lot of bands that we really like as people as well as
musicians. One bad side is that there are a lot of genre-elitists.
This is actually a problem that's much bigger than the local scene; I
feel like I'm meeting more and more people who base what they listen
to on strictly on the genre. Music should be judged based on quality,
with genre as a guideline, not the other way.
Maddie: I
like SLC's local music. There are always new bands popping up that
I've never heard of. There's also a great community about it.
Everyone's just happy
to be there and to enjoy music with one another.
Jimin:
Being a new addition to the Salt Lake music scene, I've found it to
be very inviting and full of awesome people. There are numerous
all-ages venues who are more than happy to help young bands to start
playing shows. Artopia has been especially good to us.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done to make it better?
Di:
Of course. One thing that would be great would be more Artopia-like
venues. And if we could get more people to check out shows.
Keenan:
The Specials.
Jimin: Less elitism if anything. A
lot of people will only listen to their specific genre of music.
Music should be less about classification and more about having an
awesome time.
Gavin:
If you had to make a top five list, who would you say are the best
acts in our scene now?
Di: 1. The Willkills: I'm not a
huge fan of punk, but I absolutely adore The Willkills. 2.
Skaficinadoes: I just went to a random local show about a year ago
where I'd never heard of anyone and these guys blew me away. Since
then I've gotten to know most of them and play a few shows with them.
Love 'em. 3. Dynamite Rocket: This is my brother's band. Maybe not
the highest quality band in the scene, but my favorite, definitely.
There's pretty classic three piece rock, with a few ska songs, but
two of their members are in college out of state, so they only play
over the summer and in winter break and stuff, which sucks. 4.
Viewers Like You: Ska band from Logan that I'd never heard of up
until a month ago. They have a really cool swingish sound, and put on
a great show. 5. Spontaneous Kennie: The most adorable band in the
world. You WILL have a stupid grin on your face for at least half an
hour after watching a SK show.
Jimin: 1: Fews &
Two. These guys are ska machines. If they can't make you get up and
dance, than you have no soul. They will make you skank even if you've
had a piece of your hip removed and put into your wrist (true story).
They're also all really great people and a lot of fun to play with.
2: Dynamite Rocket. This goofy trio has always been friends of ours.
66% of the band is in school out of state, but come summer, DR is
loads of fun. 3: Viewers Like You. I only learned about this band a
few weeks ago when we played a show with them. They are so talented
and skatastic that you can't not love them. 4: Super Hero: These guys
are pretty big in the local scene, playing with big touring acts such
as the Aquabats, Big D and the Kids Table. And can they play… Oh
yeah! 5: The Playdead Movement: A punk band out of Provo that we've
played with a few times. They put out so much energy, that you can't
stay still, or keep your eardrums intanct. Great fun.
Maddie:
1. Fews & Two. They play reggae/dub right. Dancing to Fews &
Two is unlike dancing to any other band! A blast. 2. Bombs &
Beating Hearts. Folk punk ahoy! 3. Talking Bombs. Gotta love that
crack rock steady beat from dem SLC streetz! Our bands are best
friends. 4. In Key Dropouts. East Bay skaesque. They broke up but I
believe they are getting back together. Hopefully. This band is
great. 5. Viewers Like You. Jazz ska band. I’ve only heard them
once but it was magical.
Keenan: 1. The Specials. 2.
The Specials. 3. The Specials. 4. The Specials. 5. The Specials.
Rob
(The Sex Appeal): 1. Carl. 2. Carl Goes Solo.3. Carl (Back in
Crack). 4. Carl (Danzig is a Wookie!?!?!?!) 5 Carl ILLEGAL MO FUCKIN
BEAGLE!
Gavin: Moving to the music industry, tell us
what your thoughts are on it in general and the current state it's
in?
Di: With an industry the size of the music
industry, it's ALWAYS going to be corrupt. There's no getting around
it. I try to just enjoy the music and not think too much about the
industry itself.
Maddie: What Di said. Also, bands
shouldn’t be scrutinized for wanting to get out there by signing to
a label. I’m really sick of hearing that. Signing to a major label
and giving up your musical integrity are quite different things.
Mitch
Clem
can express my views better than I.
Jimin: The major
music industry is self-destructing. Its become all about profit and
intellectual property. I respect every musician who is making music
because that's what they love to do, but major labels and companies
have twisted
music for money.
Gavin: What do you think of the
current trends in music that are getting radio play today?
Jimin:
I don't really listen to the radio, but it seems like everything you
hear is more or less the same.
Di: Catchiness is the
focus with rock music today. Don't get me wrong, being able to write
a catchy song is a really impressive thing, but catchiness and
quality are not mutually exclusive.
Maddie: Eh. I don't
like most bands on the radio, but knowing that most of my favorite
bands don't get played on the radio and aren't super famous makes
their shows so much more personal and meaningful.
Gavin:
What's your opinion on file sharing and how it affects you as a
musician?
Di: In regards to me personally, I'd be fine
with someone downloading my music since I would just be happy someone
wanted to listen to us. Focusing on the big picture, I still think
file sharing isn't a bad thing, since the music industry is getting
most of the money from CDs. Radiohead's idea with there last album
was genius, I think. They made their latest album downloadable on
their site for whatever price people wanted to pay.
Madison:
I figure if someone downloaded our songs then they must like us. So
cool. They're willing to do something Illegal to get the Beagle.
Word.
Jimin: Everyone who wants our music should be
able to get it. Download away! Spreading music and having a good time
should come first. Supporting us financially is certainly welcome,
but don't make it an obligation. Just hearing us play and enjoying it
is good enough for me.
Gavin: Are you working on an
album yet or just playing gigs for now?
Di: Just
recorded. We'll probably have our first five-track demo available in
about a month. Gigs will be our main focus, as always, but it'll be
nice to have something to send people home with too.
Maddie:
Finally, finally recorded.
Jimin: Jeez, we've been
playing gigs for a long time… but we're recording an EP as we
speak. Hope to have it done by the end of the month.
Gavin:
Is there anything you'd like to promote or plug?
Di:
Our demo. Also just the local scene in general. If you have some free
time, go to a random local show; you might be impressed.
Madison:
Go to the shows who's fliers are posted all up and down fourth south.
You won't be disappointed.
Jimin: Us! And our EP! And
Cookies!
The
Playdead Movement (Cruz, Regan, Howa and
Shane)
http://www.myspace.com/theplaydeadmovement
Gavin: Hey guys, first off, tell
us who you are and a little about yourselves.
Regan:
Well, I'm Regan Ashton. I play rhythm and sing lead in the band.
Shane is straight up lead guitar and also vocals. Howa plays the
drums and also is the video man for Rancid. and Cruz is our bass
player. I can go into more detail, but that's pretty much the jist of
it.
Gavin: How did you all get together and decide to
form The Playdead Movement?
Regan: Shane came up with
it. Technically, he is the only original member. I started a couple
of months after it was made and replaced a kid named Austin who now
is on bass duty for Sounds of Emergency. Howa and Cruz came in 3
years later.
Gavin: Who were some of your favorite acts
and musical influences growing up?
Regan: Definitely
Rancid, the Clash, and Stiff Little Fingers. Great punk bands to get
into at a young age and kinda build your sound around.
Gavin:
The general agreement is that you guys are a pure punk band. Do you
view yourselves as a punk band, or do you find it insulting to be
lumped into that category?
Regan: Of course! In punk
rock, there is no fine line. Ha, we fit in somewhere.
Gavin:
You released the Sinners & Saints EP last year. What was
that experience like recording it, and what was the reaction to it
when you released it?
Regan: It was great! Writing and
recording those songs was a big step from what we've done previously
in our career. That EP tells the story of two years playing in
PDM.
Gavin: Are you on board with Old Shoe
Records?
Regan: Actually, we respectfully declined. We
love the guys who run Old Shoe and the bands who front it. But it
just wasn't for us.
Gavin: What did you think of the
experience of playing at The Big Ass Show?
Regan: Man,
I still remember every detail of that day. Playing in front of that
many people can really get your heart pounding, in a good way though.
One of the best days of my life.
Gavin: A little local,
what are your thoughts on the local music scene, both good and
bad?
Regan: Not to sound negative or anything but I'm
really not impressed by it right now. So many bands are competing, it
takes the fun out of it. The bands themselves are great. Bands like
Talking Bombs, Negative Charge, and Dubbed are dope shit! I love it.
But the scene? Too much hate my friend.
Gavin: Is there
anything you believe could be done to make it better?
Regan:
If people would just have fun with it man. Nobody can be happy for
anybody's success here. If anyone's band scored it big in Utah, I'd
definitely be backing them 100%.
Gavin: If you had to
make a list, who would you say are the best acts in our scene
now?
Regan: Like I said, Talking Bombs, Negative
Charge, and Dubbed. But two others would be The Willkills and
Vanzetti Crime. My step brother Mike is in Vanzetti Crime and I love
those boys to death.
Gavin: Moving to the music
industry, tell us what your thoughts are on it in general and the
current state it's in?
Regan: Fuck man, I'm no business
man. I have no idea how to even run a band. We're just getting lucky.
But the music industry? I hear some bad things and good things. I can
only hope that if we get any bigger, the industry takes a liking to
us boys in Southern Utah County. Ha ha.
Gavin: What do
you think of the current trends in music that are getting radio play
today?
Regan: Everything is the same man. I hate
turning that dial and hearing the same shit but a different band. I
try my hardest to sound different and still be legit, it's a
difficult road but it's something that can either make ya' or break
ya'..
Gavin: What's your opinion on file sharing and
how it affects you as a musician?
Regan: As long as my
music is out there I'm not against it. I'd rather have 1 million fans
than 1 million record sales.
Gavin: You're going to be
playing with Rancid in a couple weeks. Tell us the details on that,
and how did that come about?
Regan: Aw man, it's going
to be the shit! We became friends with Branden and Rancid over the
last year and along with they're booking agent and the coolest lady
on the planet Stormy Shepard, they were able to throw us on as local
support. We couldn't have done a lot of the things we've done without
the support of Branden. He's a mentor to me.
Gavin: Are
you working on an album yet or just playing gigs for now? And if so,
what are the details on the progress?
Regan: Right now
we're just writing as much as possible and playing shows. No album
has been really talked about in detail and no plans are made for a
date or anything. We're just enjoying the ride and taking as much in
as possible.
Gavin: Is there anything you'd like to
promote or plug?
Regan: Hell Yeah!! All my friends
bands: Sounds of Emergency, Boneyard Daddies, The Withdrawals, my
crew 801 PUNX, and a big thanks to anyone who has helped us in any
way. Thank you for your support. Much respect.